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| From:Carrie Peters Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 1:20 PM To: Tanimura Subject: toothpick bridges Hello. My name is Carrie and I am in a physics class that was assigned
to make a bridge entirely out of toothpicks and glue. It must be
at least 30 cm long and the height does not matter. My partner and
I are using the Pratt truss, but we were wondering if it was necessary
to put smaller triangles inside the larger ones. We are clamping our glue
overnight and we will make the joints on another day. Any advice
that you could give us would be great. Thank you! |
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| From: Tanimura Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 4:03 PM To: Carrie Peters Subject: RE: toothpick bridges Hello Carrie Thank you for your mail. It will be a meaningful opportunity for you to enjoy building toothpick bridges. I don't know the rule of your bridge contest.So, I may not be able to do effective advice. Why are you using the Pratt truss? According to our experience, in the
truss structure out of toothpicks, the strength of the adhesion part is
very weak in comparison with the strength of the member. Most of my students
choose Howe truss rather than Pratt truss. When Howe truss structure is
adopted, it can be done small load to the tension members. How to make
a contact point is important. |
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| From: Carrie Peters Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 8:43 AM To: Tanimura Subject: our bridge project Dear Yasuyuki Tanimura, Thank you so much for your advice. Unfortunately, we do not have a picture of our bridge because we are not done building it. Here are some more details about the assignment: -only use standard sized toothpicks and glue -bridge must span horizontal opening that is a minimum of 30 cm -width of bridge must be at least 4 cm. There is no limit to the overall height of the structure, but it must provide a "roadbed" that is no more than 5 cm above the top surface of the test supports. The "roadbed" is placed where "cars" would drive if this bridge were a "real bridge." You cannot have toothpicks in the middle of the "road." The load used to test the strength of the bridge will be applied to the "roadbed" -the bridge may touch the top surface of the supports for any length but it may NOT touch the inside vertical surfaces of the supports. -the bridge must weigh less than 50 grams STRENGTH TEST: a wooden block (50x50x12 mm) will be placed on the roadbed, approximately at the center of the structure. A bucket will be attached to the bottom of the rod and then mass will be slowly added to the bucket. Loading will continue until the bridge fails (can no longer hold weight). We also have to write a report about our bridge. We chose to use the Pratt truss because we thought that it would be stronger than the Howe truss. We thought that the diagonal toothpicks in the Pratt truss would be able to handle more tension and the vertical components would be able to handle more compression. Is this true, or is the Howe truss better? The diagonals of the Howe truss go in the opposite direction. So far, we have glued pairs of toothpicks together and clamped them while they are drying. We are not gluing them end to end, but overlapping them so the joints will be stronger (similar to how it says on your website). Our teacher told us to do this as well. ![]() This is a picture of the Pratt truss, which my partner and I are using as of now. ![]() When I asked if it was necessary to put smaller triangles within the larger triangles, I was referring to this design (Baltimore-Pratt truss). Would this be too difficult to build and would it be much stronger than the original Pratt truss (up above)? ![]() You said that most of your students use the Howe truss. Do they use this simple Howe truss, or the one below with counter braces?
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| From:Tanimura Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:24 AM To: Carrie Peters Subject: RE: our bridge project Hi Carrie I understand your assignment and project. We thought that the diagonal toothpicks in the Pratt truss would be able to handle more tension and the vertical components would be able to handle more compression. The diagonals of the Howe truss go in the opposite direction. What you say above is right. >So far, we have glued pairs of toothpicks together and clamped them while they are drying. We are not gluing them end to end, but overlapping them so the joints will be stronger (similar to how it says on your website). Our teacher told us to do this as well. That is a very good idea. Here are some hints for you. You will know that many toothpick bridges break from the joint part at
the strength testing, as many actual bridges break from the welded section.Destruction
begins from the weakest point, and does a chain. Which joint do you think breaks easily? I think that is the joint of the diagonal of the Pratt truss. It may be OK if you devise a joint part like the following figure. 1. Make strong joint parts. You can probably use about 300 toothpicks. You are very smart. If you take care of attention above, you might build a strong bridge. And your teacher might shout like this. gThere is no weight! It's too dangerous! I really want to read your report. If my advice is useful for you, that would be my great pleasure |
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| From: Carrie Peters Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:35 PM To: Tanimura Subject: RE: our bridge project Dear Tanimura, Thank you so much for more advice. My partner and I will reconsider which truss we use and hopefully we will be able to build strong joints. Our report is not written, as we have not finished our bridge yet. If you would still like to read it when we are finished, I would be happy to send it to you. We are required to do research for our bridge and we are also required to use outside sources, so I plan on using our email correspondance and diagrams as one of our sources. One problem is that I did not save the second email that I sent to you with the truss diagrams and such. If you still have it and could send it back to me, that would be wonderful. If you already deleted it, it is not a problem...I think I remember what I wrote! I was wondering why making the height of the structure tall would increase the amount of weight the bridge would hold? Thanks again for replying to our emails and for answering our questions.
I now understand tension and compression better. Thanks! |
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| From: Tanimura Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:59 PM To: Carrie Peters Subject: RE(3): our bridge project Dear Carrie I am glad to hear of your hopeful project. forwarded your second mail to you. No one knows the most suitable structure of the toothpick bridge yet. I will be able to learn much from your report. So, I really would like to read your report. Can you find some hints for your question in the following figure? and more hint in the picture http://homepage2.nifty.com/SUBAL/5thSc1-1.jpg In any way, the central vertical tension member must be made thick, and you must strengthen those joints. If it is possible, you should take pictures of the process that your bridge breaks in the video. Those must become precious research materials. I'm sure that your project would succeed |
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| From: Carrie Peters Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:58 AM To: Tanimura Subject: our paper Dear Mr Tanimura, We are in the process of writing our paper and wanted to make sure that the following statement was in fact true.... The diagonals of the Howe truss will be in compression while the vertical members will be in tension when weight is added. Therefore, the forces on the vertical and diagonal members will cancel one another out and our bridge will be stable. If it is not we are not sure how to explain the benefits of the Howe trussc Thanks once again for your time. Hope to hear back from you soon. Carrie |
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| From: Tanimura Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 9:05 PM To: Carrie Peters Subject: RE: our paper I am glad to hear of your studying eagerly. Has the load test to the toothpick bridges been finished? Did your bridge go well? In the truss structure out of toothpicks and glue, the strength of the adhesion part is very weak in comparison with the strength of the member. The joint parts of the compression members won't depend on the strength of the adhesion material in many cases. I think that this viewpoint is very important though it is often missed. One of the benefits of the Howe truss in toothpick bridges is tha the diagonal members will be in charge of the compressive force. This benefit is remarkable in case of loading on the joint of the upper string. In case of loading on the joint of the lower string, the central vertical tension member must be made thick, and you must strengthen those joints, as pointed out in my previous mail. In case of lower way truss bridge, the benefit of the Howe truss isn't obvious. But I guess that it's effective that the deformation of the triangle composed the truss is prevented with the diagonal compression member rather than with the tension member. I don't think that the forces on the vertical and diagonal members will cancel one another out. The axial forces of the vertical and diagonal and horizontal members will keep balance. The vector sum will become zero. It is important to exclude the weak point, which will become the origin of the destruction. Please let me know if you have more questions and I will be happy to assist. Are you a high school student, or an university studentH |
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| From: Carrie Peters Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:38 AM To: Tanimura Subject: thanks Dear Mr. Yasuyuki, Thank you for your quick reply to our question on our paper. Your response was quite helpful. We have not tested our bridge yet. We will be doing so in about a week. My partner and I ended up combing some aspects of the Howe truss with our own design. We hope that it will work well. Both my partner and I are in high school and enjoy our physics class a lot. I will let you know how our bridge works. Thanks so much for your help. Carrie |
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| From: Tanimura Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:49 PM To: Carrie Peters Subject: Addendum information Dear Carrie I would like to add more information to my previous mail. Have you already learned about B.M.D.(Bending Moment Diagram) and S.F.D.(Shearing Force Diagram) of beam? If you have already learned about them, you could easily understand the following figure that showed relationship between truss and beam. And you could learn how vertical and diagonal and horizontal members play their roles in truss. If you want to learn about truss and beam more, free softwares in the next URL are available. http://kitten.ace.nitech.ac.jp/soft_e.html I hope that your bridge will work well. Have fun. |
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