Qi Men Dun Jia

Qi Men Dun Jia(or Qimendunjia) is one of the most powerful oracles, to know both good luck and bad luck in aspects of time and space(direction). Qi means mysterious or strange in usual, but in Takeda theory here, it means valuable or holy. Men means a gate, and Dun means hidden or escaped(to make hidden), and Jia is the first one of ten stems, which is considered as the most sacred in this method.

In Dun Jia(or Dunjia) theory, we use a kind of direction chart called Pan, which is drawed as a square divided into nine blocks( 3 x 3. eight directions and centre ). In each directional block, one of the eight gates is positioned. We put away Jia(because of its holiness) and use other nine stems to put them into Dun Jia Pan chart at first, and after several process of making, Jia comes into the Pan chart from one of the eight gates. And that's why this method is called Qi Men Dun Jia.

I have read about at least three kinds of Dunjia in Japan. So called Sangen, Tohru, and Takeda. Moreover, I've seen more several kinds of Dunjia, of which groups were not clear to me. And perhaps, there might be other kinds of Dunjia I have never known.

This is one of the most typical characteristics of Dunjia. In ancient age, those who won using Dunjia tried to keep it as top-secret, and suppressed Dunjia-masters to prevent from Dunjia-secret leaking to the enemies of the governors.

Many Dunjia-masters were arrested, but they'd never made the secret of Dunjia clear. Instead, they made up counterfeit methods as 'Dunjia'. That's why we can find many kinds of Dunjia, and lost which is the original one today.

As I cannot write about whole kinds of Dunjia, I'll write some articles based on 'Takeda theory', which I think the most reasonable one of today's Japanese Dunjia.

1.Basic Background

1.1 Heavenly Chi and Earthly Chi

We need to have some knowledges to learn Qi men dun jia. The most basic one is Chinese calendar for Dun Jia. Because Dun Jia is the scholarship for studying controls of heavnly Chi and Earthly Chi by time factor, using Chinese calendar. Both of Chi are symbolysed by Ten Stems. But meaning of them are different. Celestial ones are related to moving sun, and others are related to the earth, especially directions. This means, that we use the same symbols to indicate status of cosmic energy in different aspects. I suppose it is easy to be confused, but I believe, we should distinguish heavenly stems and earthly stems clearly. They are not the same.

1.2 Yin Dun and Yang Dun

There are two ways of heavenly Qi's moving, Yin Dun and Yang Dun. Both are concerned with moving of Earth around the sun.

Yin Dun Yin Dun is a period from summer solstice to next winter solstice. When during the Yin Dun period, Yin energy is born and increasing its power day by day.

Yang Dun is a period from winter solstice to next summer solstice. During the Yang Dun period, Yang energy is increasing.

This circulation of energy concerned with time can be comprehend as revolution of earth like following:

[Figure 1: Cyclic moving of Yin and Yang energy]

                                                     +++++ Yang energy stream
                                                     ----- Yin  energy stream

 Jan. Feb. Mar. Apl. May    Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Oct. Nov.    Dec.... . .
- Yang Dun -----------------|----- Yin Dun -------------------|---- - - 
            |               |                |                |
            |             summer             |               winter
            |              solstice          |               solstice
            |               |                |                |
        spring equinox      |           autumn equinox        |
            |               |                |                |
            |           Yang peak            |             Yin peak
            |             ++|++              |              --|--
--          |         +++   |   +++          |           ---  |  ---
  ---       |      +++      |      +++       |       ----     |     ---
     ---    |   +++         |         +++    |    ----        |         
        --- |+++            |            +++ | ----           |         
------------0--------------------------------0--------------------------
        +++ | --            |            --- | +++            |         
    +++++   |   --          |          --    |    ++++        |        +
 +++++      |      -----    |      -----     |        ++++    |     +++
++          |          ---  |  ---           |           ++++ | ++++
            |             -----              |              +++++
            |            Yin bottom          |            Yang bottom

------ Yang Dun ------------|------------ Yi Dun -------------|--- - -

We should remember how streams influence each other when we use Dun Jia. And one more, this is a factor of time. In the Dun Jia theory, it is important to watch both time( or seasonal) factor and space( or directional ) factor.

1.3 Earthly Stems

Originally, they are considered as Twelve Branches. In Dun Jia way, included stems of branches are used at first. According to ancient Chinese phylosophy, people think heaven are moving, and earth are staying. Therefore, twelve branches are always set at the same position, despite stems are changing their positions by time passing.

1.4 San Qi

San Ji means three high-valued symbolic agents and consists of , and .

1.5 Liu Yi

Liu Yi( six symbolic flags of the king and feudal lords. ) is a stem which is be rearranged by hidden Jia.

It consists of , , , , and .

Liu Yi is determined by stems and branches automatically.
For example, if stem-and-branch of year, month, day, or hour is 22, , we can find that is decided to stem.

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51	41	31	21	11	1	Stems and Branches
52	42	32	22	12	2
53	43	33	23	13	3
54	44	34	24	14	4
55	45	35	25	15	5
56	46	36	26	16	6
57	47	37	27	17	7
58	48	38	28	18	8
59	49	39	29	19	9
60	50	40	30	20	10

1.6 Ju

Ju means situation. In Dunjia method, there are cyclic numbers on year, month, day and hour of Dunjia calendar. For example, Ju number of the year 1998 is 2. 1995 is 5. The first situation number is on the year BC 117, which is the starting year of stem and branch as .

Ju Shu ( situation numbers ) consists of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. It goes descendantly under Yin Dun period, and ascendantly under Yang Dun period like following:

= 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

= 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9

There are 18 situations totally.

2.'Pan' chart

First of all, we must cast several kinds of charts to divinate by Dun Jia. There are two main kinds of diagrams called 'Pan', 'Li Xiang Pan' and 'Zuo Shan Pan'.

No. Pan Summary

1 used for the purposes in shorter periods. We call it 'Rikkou Ban' in Japan.

2 used for the purposes in longer periods. We call it 'Zasan Ban' in Japan.

In both cases, there four types of Pan chart like following :

No. Name Summary

1 The Pan of the year

2 The Pan of the month

3 The Pan of the day

4 The Pan of the hour
should be used for daily problem-solving or purposes.

Totally, we have eight kinds of Pan chart.

3. Parts of Pan chart

There are five parts to complete a Pan chart. Tian Kan, Di Kan, Ba Men, Ba Shen, Jiu Xing, and Jiu Gong.

Known as ten celestial stems like following:

Stems are the most important part of Pan. They represent heavenly qi.

detailed stories
of Ten Celestial Stems

Ten celestial stems like Tian Kan.
They are considered as generated stems from energy of twelve branches. So, they have energy of earth( concerned with space, and/or direction ).

detailed stories of Twelve Branches are in the Page of Branches:

The home position of eight gates are like following:

Eight Gates
( home position )

Basic interpretation of Ba Men ( eight gates )

The second most important part of the Pan chart is Ba Men. They represent status of energy changing by time passing. I describe it as pattern of daily life.

Num. Gate direction time summary

1
(birth) northeast 01:00 - 05:00 To generate energy for action of the day. It is an agent of Gen-Trigram, and also represents Chou-branch and Yin-branch. Generally speaking, This gate is useful for any purpose, especially for health.

2
(injury) east 05:00 - 07:00 To be injured or scratch something easily by mistake, because of hurry to the work or remainder of yesterday's tiredness. It is an agent of Zhen-Trigram, and also represents Mao-Branch. This gate is useful for hospitalization with operations.

3
(clumsy) southeast 07:00 - 11:00 Start working of the day, but not smoothly done for complete. It is an agent of Sun-Trigram, and also represents Chen-branch and Si-branch. This gate is not useful for any purposes. This gate is only useful for running away, or arresting robbers.

4
(prospect) south 11:00 - 13:00 The most active time in a day. It is an agent of Li, and also represents Wu-branch. This gate is useful for any purposes.

5
(slacken) southwest 13:00 - 17:00 Sleepy for satisfaction from eating. It is an agent of Kun-Trigram, and also represents Wei-branch and Shen-branch. This gate should not be used except burial.

6
(surprise) west 17:00 - 19:00 It's nearly the time to finish the work. As concentrations get declined, people are easily surprised at unexpected happenings. It is an agent of Dui-Trigram, and also represents You-branch. This gate is not useful for any purposes.

7
(relax) northwest 19:00 - 23:00 Return home after work of the day. It's time to go to bed. It is an agent of Chain-Trigram, and also represents Xu-branch and Hai-branch. This gate is useful for any purposes.

8
(rest) north 23:00 - 01:00 People are in sleep. It is an agent of Kan-Trigram, and also represents Zi-branch. This gate is useful for any purposes.

Rotation of Ba Men ( eight gates )

Eight Gates rotate clockwise by time factors such as Year, Month, Day, and Hour. We need the current positions of eight gates when we use it to make our life improved.

To position eight gates, we need to determine a position of Sheng Men, for ther gates are positioned orderly.
I'll describe about the way to position Sheng Men in the section 4. I wrote results of rotation here.
Example 1) The Ba Men of 1995

Example 2) The Ba Men of Yin-Dun 3rd situation, Yi-You Month

Example 3) The Ba Men of Yang-Dun 2nd situation, Bing-Chen Day

Example 4) The Ba Men of Yin-Dun 1st situation, Ren-Yin Hour

We select a suitable gate for purpose. But it is not usual to use Yearly or Monthly gates. Usually we use Daily and Hourly gates to make our fortune better. Of course, it is more advisable to use good luck directions on both Daily-Pan and Hourly-Pan.

However, there are some important rules of eight gates positioning, which influences the result of using gates. I'll write about it in the section 5.

Ba Shen are eight fountains of celestial powers.
They cannot influence the balance of power of Tian Kan and Di Kan directly, but they make some effects by things what they represent.

The assumed home positions of Ba Shen is like following:

under

under

Ba Shen have no fixed home positions.

Under Yin Dun , the first one is positioned on the direction of .

If Liu Yi is on centre, they are positioned on these assumed home positions. Under Yin Dun, the first one, Zhi Fu is positioned on west, and others are positioned on eight directions counterclockwisely.

Under Yang Dun, the first one, Zhi Fu is positioned on northeast, and others are positioned on eight directions clockwisely.

The home positions of Nine Stars are like following:

They are not so important.

Well kown to Japanese people as the system of 'Kyuu Sei' or 'Kyuu Sei Kigaku'.

They are not so important.

4. Casting Pan charts

We need Chinese Calendar to cast Pan charts. First of all, Celestial stems and Earthly stems should be arranged on the chart. Next, Ba Men, Ba Shen, Jiu Xing and Jiu Gong process might be followed.

4.1. Di Kan

There are two patterns to position 9 stems like following:

Under Yin Dun , three San Qi come at first ascendantly, and six Liu Yi follow next descendantly.
Under Yang Dun , six Liu Yi come at first ascendantly, and three San Qi follow next descendantly,

We use situation numbers to arrange nine stems, which made up special situations by making formations.

At first, the position of Wu stem is the home position of the same number Gong with situation number. For example, if current situation number is 6, the position of the first stem( it should be Yi under Yin Dun, and Wu under Yang Dun ) is at northwest, which is the home position of Liu-Bai( six-white ) Gong.

Example-1) Yang Dun, Situation number 1

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2 Numbers of the bottom line of each column of left table are Jiu-Gong numbers of the home position.

In this case, Wu is positioned on north, which is the home position of Yi-Bai Gong or 1 Gong. And, 1 is the number of situation of this case. Next one, Ji-stem, is positioned on the home position of Er-Hei Gong or 2 Gong.

3
5
7

8
1
6

See all patterns of nine stems arrangement by 18 patterns of Di Kan arrangement by situation numbers.

4.2. Tian Kan

Celestial stems or Tian Kan are determined by moving of every Earthly stem or Di Kan. Each Celestial stem moves to 5 times next from its current position. And, the central earthly stem is determined at last.

Example-2-1) Yin Dun, Situation number 8, Liu-Yi is on Gui

In this case, it is Gui, which is Liu-Yi of current pattern, is positioned on east. Hidden Jia is appeared here as next chart.

( Liu-Yi )

Example-2-2) Yin Dun, Situation number 8, Liu-Yi is on Gui

Hidden Jia is positioned on east now. And here is a starting point of Tian-Kan arrangement. The first one is this Jia, and it'll be positioned on southwest, where is counterclockwisely 5 times next from Jia's current position like next chart.

Example-2-3) Yin Dung, Situation number 8, Liu-Yi is on Gui

In Yin Dun case, Tian-Kan is positioned on the direction 5 after counterclockwisely. For example, The first Tian-Kan is positioned on south west. Next, Wu in northeast moves to south, Bing moves to southeast like next chart.

Example-2-4) Yin Dung, Situation number 8, Liu-Yi is on Gui

Each of other Tian-Kan is positioned as the same way. And finally, the central Tian Kan is positioned. It is the same one with Di Kan. In this case, Xin is positioned.

4.3. Ba Men

The method of Ba Men Positioning is like following:

Exsample) Yang Dun, situation number 5, Current Ste is Wu, Liuyi is Ji

(LiuYi)

First, Decide a gate, through which a (a direct messenger from emperor or feudal lords) comes. The Zhishi's gate is on the gate of position of stem on the Pan. In this case, it should be on the position of northwest( because, Liu Yi is on the northwest ).
And now, Di Pan shows like following:

()

The northwest is a home position of gate. Therefore, we can say we get in the gate now.

And the Gong of northwest is ( the palace of Six-White ). Here, we get a number Six( of LiuBai ) to count up from Jia to the current stem.

Put the number Six on stem, and count up numbers to the current Stem , like following:

6 7 8 9 1

The number for the stem is 1, of which Gong is . The home position of . is north, and, this is a direction of the gate we've gotten in previous step.

---- ---- ----

---- ---- ----

---- ----

Next, position other gates orderly and clockwisely.

Now, I wrote a table to find the answer more easily. Let's confirm the way of BaMen arrangement again. At first, decide a first gate with the table-A following. For example, if we have a on the position of east , the first gate should be decided to gate. Patterns of ordering to put Ba Men on Pan are like following:

TABLE-A:
Find the first gate from position of Zhi Shi
Direction of
1st
Gate 2nd
Gate 3rd
Gate 4th
Gate 5th
Gate 6th
Gate 7th
Gate 8th
Gate

northeast

east

southeast

south

southwest

west

northwest

north

The first position to put Ba Men is decided to the home position of of .

For example, when we have as a current stem, and , is on the position of , the position to put the first is the home position of , northwest .

It should be found easily by using Table-B following:

TABLE-B:
Find the first position of BaMen
Current Stem of the

north
southwest
east
southeast
home
northwest
west
northeast
south

north
southwest
east
southeast
home
northwest
west
northeast
south

southwest
east
southeast
home
northwest
west
northeast
south
north

east
southeast
home
northwest
west
northeast
south
north
southwest

southeast
home
northwest
west
northeast
south
north
southwest
east

home
northwest
west
northeast
south
north
southwest
east
southeast

northwest
west
northeast
south
north
southwest
east
southeast
home

west
northeast
south
north
southwest
east
southeast
home
northwest

northeast
south
north
southwest
east
southeast
home
northwest
west

south
north
southwest
east
southeast
home
northwest
west
northeast

north
southwest
east
southeast
home
northwest
west
northeast
south

4.4. Ba Shen

To arrange is not difficult as Ba Men. The first one, is put on the position where Stem of the is placed. And others are placed clockwisely under , and counterclockwisely under .

4.5. Jiu Xing

4.4. Jiu Gong

5. Interpretation of Pan charts

6. Materials of Japanese Books

These are the books that I've read to write this page. All are written in Japanese, and I put Japanese readings under the title line. They are different from Chinese ones. For example, Chinese 'Dun Jia' is 'Ton Kou' in Japanese, and so on.

BOOK SUMMARY

This is well known to some people as 'Takeda Theory'. The author of this book writes so many books of this field and makes arranges to fit modern usuage of ancient theories of Dun Jia and Zi Ping.

ISBN 4-7952-2911-2
(c) 1995 , Japan

Authors belong to the group called 'Tooru ha(the school of Tooru)' in Japan, which has one of the most great scholarships of oracles in Taiwan.

ISBN 4-7952-2911-2
(c) 1983 , Japan

	Yin Dun is a period from summer solstice to next winter solstice. When during the Yin Dun period, Yin energy is born and increasing its power day by day.
	Yang Dun is a period from winter solstice to next summer solstice. During the Yang Dun period, Yang energy is increasing.

No.	Pan	Summary
1		used for the purposes in shorter periods. We call it 'Rikkou Ban' in Japan.
2		used for the purposes in longer periods. We call it 'Zasan Ban' in Japan.

No.	Name	Summary
1		*The Pan of the year*
2		*The Pan of the month*
3		*The Pan of the day*
4		*The Pan of the hour* should be used for daily problem-solving or purposes.

	Stems are the most important part of Pan. They represent heavenly qi.
detailed stories of Ten Celestial Stems

4	9	2	Numbers of the bottom line of each column of left table are Jiu-Gong numbers of the home position. In this case, Wu is positioned on north, which is the home position of Yi-Bai Gong or 1 Gong. And, 1 is the number of situation of this case. Next one, Ji-stem, is positioned on the home position of Er-Hei Gong or 2 Gong.
3	5	7
8	1	6

			In this case, it is Gui, which is Liu-Yi of current pattern, is positioned on east. Hidden Jia is appeared here as next chart.
( Liu-Yi )

			Hidden Jia is positioned on east now. And here is a starting point of Tian-Kan arrangement. The first one is this Jia, and it'll be positioned on southwest, where is counterclockwisely 5 times next from Jia's current position like next chart.

			In Yin Dun case, Tian-Kan is positioned on the direction 5 after counterclockwisely. For example, The first Tian-Kan is positioned on south west. Next, Wu in northeast moves to south, Bing moves to southeast like next chart.

			Each of other Tian-Kan is positioned as the same way. And finally, the central Tian Kan is positioned. It is the same one with Di Kan. In this case, Xin is positioned.

Current Stem	of the
Current Stem	north	southwest	east	southeast	home	northwest	west	northeast	south
	north	southwest	east	southeast	home	northwest	west	northeast	south
	southwest	east	southeast	home	northwest	west	northeast	south	north
	east	southeast	home	northwest	west	northeast	south	north	southwest
	southeast	home	northwest	west	northeast	south	north	southwest	east
	home	northwest	west	northeast	south	north	southwest	east	southeast
	northwest	west	northeast	south	north	southwest	east	southeast	home
	west	northeast	south	north	southwest	east	southeast	home	northwest
	northeast	south	north	southwest	east	southeast	home	northwest	west
	south	north	southwest	east	southeast	home	northwest	west	northeast
	north	southwest	east	southeast	home	northwest	west	northeast	south

BOOK	SUMMARY
	This is well known to some people as 'Takeda Theory'. The author of this book writes so many books of this field and makes arranges to fit modern usuage of ancient theories of Dun Jia and Zi Ping. ISBN 4-7952-2911-2 (c) 1995 , Japan
	Authors belong to the group called 'Tooru ha(the school of Tooru)' in Japan, which has one of the most great scholarships of oracles in Taiwan. ISBN 4-7952-2911-2 (c) 1983 , Japan